Aquiring Content for all Zeitgeist radio chapters

Excellent idea! I'd love my music to be used, and I've got a few chums who'd jump at the chance to get their music on a platform like internet radio.

why don'twe start with making the radio station purely information? We can listen to music on youtube if we really wanted but isn't the whole idea of the radio to share thoughts and ideas clearly whilst answering questions and debating subjects? why get distracted by music?

the idea is to get people interested in the movement. how is some boring person droning on about whats wrong in the world going to do that.

that may no be how we would look at it, but it will be how others outside the movement will look at it.
its also the same reason we want to play music that people know and like. low quality recordings from bands no one has heard of wont attract anyone.

im all for getting a licence. if i had the money i would pay for it myself. but im homeless and jobless with a shit load of debt.

why dont we make a kitty for the radio and start fund raising. PJ has already said theres nothing wrong with raising money to cover expenses. we exist within a monetary system, which unfortunately means we have to work within a monetary system, and that means using money.

I agree with spooky. Members/visitors will get bored of constant talk. I want this site to appeal to all. I'm sure some members come here for the community aspect or everyday talk. Let our appeal be broad.

that may no be how we would look at it, but it will be how others outside the movement will look at it.
its also the same reason we want to play music that people know and like. low quality recordings from bands no one has heard of wont attract anyone.

im all for getting a licence. if i had the money i would pay for it myself. but im homeless and jobless with a shit load of debt.

why dont we make a kitty for the radio and start fund raising. PJ has already said theres nothing wrong with raising money to cover expenses. we exist within a monetary system, which unfortunately means we have to work within a monetary system, and that means using money.
We would filter content Spooky. If the recording isn't upto scratch it won't be played.

All bands were once unknown. I've heard alot of fresh/decent music from artists I hadn't heard of before. Wouldn't you rather give them a platform at no cost to the movement than pay money for a licence of any kind? And make fat cat music industry owners richer.

As most of us know, most artist( get a fraction of the profits and pay their own expenses. We may be able to reduce that exploitation with this plan.

Here are some more sites we may be able to get content off:

http://www.jamendo.com/en/ ccmixter.org/ http://www.studiocutz.com/ http://www.royaltyfreemusic.com/ freeplaymusic.com/ incompetech.com/m/c/royalty-free/ http://www.partnersinrhyme.com/

so do you not listen to peter joseph rant on for 2 or more hours? i personally found the blogtalk radio just after joining and never once has the dronging put me off because i wasnt here to listen to someones voice i was here to expand my knowledge and to listen to other peoples ideas and havnt missed an episode since... so how can you say all new comers want to listen to only mainstream music? i certainly dislike minastream to the fullest because it is full of shit lyrics and the artist are merly in it for the money... so what am i then? a rogue?

I think music is a good way to reach out to people and spread awareness, I believe peter commented on this in his last radio show. My music is heavily influenced by the movement amongst other stuff and i would happily let it be used by the movement however it sees fit. I listen to peter on blog talk every week now and it's brilliant info show for members of the movement but for an outsider or someone with mainstream inclinations it may seem foreign. A show showcasing unsigned talent (especially artists that write songs on similar subjects to the movement) with a good mix of info and interviews from members of the movement would be fantastic, a brilliant way to spread awareness. I think a music database is a good idea to get things started, personally i know a lot of musicians that would happily give there music to the cause. This would not be mainstream - this would be pushing bands and artists that actually have something to say. Lets bring these artists forward i say, there performing live and have audiences and fan bases to get the word out constantly.

I think its a good idea guys, but this is how we started last time.
And eventually we decided to fuck the law and play mainstream copyrighted music and thats how we got shut down.
I personally couldent find hours worth of free music, i found alot but i couldent find enuff for a weeks worth of shows for example without it getting very repetative.
If you guys think you can do better then i emplore you to try!!

And i think your all right in terms of a talk show, only you should have a healthy mix of talking and playing music for a good show, this bit i struggled with, i just wanted to play sum tunes lol.

Jinx

I've always loved indie music - not necessarily indie in the generic sense, but indie in that it's independent of a record label. Real indie music. I've always enjoyed finding bands before a label has picked them up, and in today's world a band is less likely to get picked up by a label. Real indie bands are always looking for outlets to get their music heard. I can understand the above comments about badly recorded music not having a place on the radio, but many indie bands create broadcast quality recordings using home equipment due to the improvement in recording technology. Personally, I think original music - especially music influenced by ZM - would be very apt for ZM radio, more than the latest media darlings who are only there because they have pretty faces to sell lots of downloads for the record label whores.

Passing this on from an email from the international chapters:

I (Jenwild - the US national co-ordinator) asked him if he had created a music video for it. He said there is one being created, but he welcome others to do the same, if anyone feels inspired to create a video and upload to YouTube. Also, I told him that I would request that any of our blogtalkradio hosts who use his music on the air let him know that you played his song. His email is below.

Sorry don't like it and I can't unerstand what they are on about :thumbdown:

Hello

You'll have to forgive me I'm still trying to ctch up with lots on the site (maybe bumping a few topics aswell)

What happened with this? Did we go for a licence or are we trying to get as much free music as possible?

Do we have many songwriters on the site at the moment?

We will only be playing free unsigned music. The Music Database is being tested now.

We have three more DJ's ready to broadcast. Radio Managers from each region will create the radio schedule for their region's day. North West England chapter have Sundays. Regional groups can broadcast pre-recorded meetings (we are working on streaming live Teamspeak/skype meetings), announcements, live call in shows using skype to call in etc.

OK guys, new DJ in the place and eager to utilise my talents and international contacts.
(Please bare in mind, seen as I'm new n y'all don't know me, I write to impart facts, not to inflate my ego...which is minuscule anyway.)

I see after my hiatus from web radio that you apparently now have to have a license.
Are they so expansive so as to make 1 license for the ZM to cover the planet untenable?
With time split and allotted to each country and the best DJs they have with ZM type news broadcasts covering wide areas instead of being too localised and thusly informing other chapters what ones near them are upto, lectures timed to be played thru a week so that all time zones get a play. These are things jus off the top of my head. There's a lot that can done here and the opportunity must be pursued vigorously.
I'm currently out of work and would like nothing more than to work on this with you. IF you had charity status I could even have got a grant to pay me a wage.

As I've gathered so far from above, searching for FREE unsigned music to play, although becoming easier, is very time consuming. It's out there, eager musicians and some labels would, I'm sure, write waivers to give permission to use their music. The sites to find these people are easy enough to find (covering many genres, which is what you need).
I've already got an idea to access 1000's of artists directly and have music left in a Drop Box on the understanding that music left there is free to use on the radio shows.

The thing is, I'm involved with established labels and artists all over the planet and have done web radio shows since 2002, (pirate radio before that and jus the other week I was a guest on BBC radio Leeds) and have been asked to return to http://www.globalfunkradio.com who broadcast 24/7 and play published music..which is the level where I need to be. I'm quite willing to do a Zeitgeist orientated show from GFR when i get back on as well as Frequncy Radio, which is German based and would repeat my show or allow me to do another live broadcast...but I'd much rather generate real radio content directly for ZM.
It feels to me like we're shooting ourselves in the foot in pursuing NON PUBLISHED radio content because you can't attract a wider crowd of listeners or play artists with a name/reputation who would bring people TO the station and the movement and maybe even agree to an interview.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for supporting new artists and labels, I used to work for Red Rhino Records who transformed the way artists and labels could operate independently in this country and helped change the focus of the music industry right across Europe and America...I've done 25 years in & out of the music industry, here and in Holland.
This is why I think it important to have a branded, identifiable ZM web radio station that CAN play published music. We need to engage as many people as possible, including the artists and labels themselves...some of who realise they need to give away free music and are aware in some way of the shift from strictly monetary society.

How about having a music server in another country where there are no streaming laws? I'll chat to my friends at GFR later tonight and find out how they're handling it these days...i'm pretty sure they don't pay a license and they may have some good pointers.

We live in the world of money at the moment and there is no getting around that fact.
What is anyone doing about making ZM a charity? The benefits of doing that are HUGE!
non taxable income, grants to buy stuff, publish stuff and even government grants to pay employee wages!

Maybe I'm jus too eager...but isn't that what this movement needs? Energy and ideas.

Seriously, I'm one phone call away from some of the biggest international music makers and labels this country has (those who ran Red Rhino now run the worlds biggest independent music distributor, PIAS) and a line directly into the international club DJ and Electronic music fraternity. I have years of gig promoting, radio show presentation, teaching, artist and label promoting knowledge at your disposal.
The zeit search bar works really well and I like the fact that I get instant access to all the podcasts and there are the ZM Global & ZM UK buttons ready to be pushed. All nice.....so it's jus the thing about content and thats something you've been going thru and made decisions on already from what I can gather.... I want to see if I can change your minds

I've also joined the Radio DJ group and didn't get a 'welcome/this is where we are at' auto mail. Anyone joining any group should at least receive a relevant 'welcome/ update' auto mail to orientate them.

let me sign off by saying once again CHARITY STATUS. We wouldn't need to do 'dodgy', time consuming online betting scams in order to raise money or rely on donation buttons and the willingness of site visitors.
I am new, so forgive me if I've missed the big discussion on applying for charity status and the state of play for the radio streams.
If anyone wants to skype with me about this, PM me for my details and a time we can chat.

Namaste

Hi Mossey

It's great to have someone with your experience and enthusiasm on board. We don't have the capability to send a welcome message at present but we are looking into it.
I will PM you my skype name

Warren

Thank thee very muchly, Warren. I look forward to our chat and over all participation in an organisation I can get me teeth into.

Hi Mossey and wecome to a new way of broadcasting.