Anybody actually interested in starting a political party? -rather than just talking about it!
Now those not interested in trying to form a political party, plz don't waste your time saying...That's not what we're about, or it wouldn't work, or the corruption, ect, ect.
As any debate about current state of affairs is POLITICAL (go wikki it before posting otherwise)
for those that are interested in forming a political party, a few thoughts.
1) While i'm fully aware of ZM/VP/RBE, calling a political party along those lines is a bad idea & a waste of time. Namely that saying i/we want to change the world will leave you lost in endless debate!
2) Saying free energy for all, usually gets you a Hell yes kind of response & you're not lost in endless debate (people don't have much to say about it apart from "yes plz")
3)free energy, free food, free med care.............would change the world!
How to get this started?
Play it there way? register as a party & swear to serv the Queen? Hmmm, not really, no thanks.
Try & start locally? Organise a mass of people to desend on a council & throw them out (peacefully)?
Organise pertitions to state we have no faith in the current system & that we want our party to take over.
We've got very provable truths on our side: Clearly & mathmatically this planet is dying, the way we live in the western world can't be reproduced all over the world (currently needing 5 planets to do this)
Current government thinking is that "what's good for the ecconomy, is good for the people" -Cutting down all the trees on the planet is good for the ecconomy, but bad for the people. Taking all the fish out of the sea is good for the ecconomy, but bad for the people. Enough to say there are 100s of reasons why the current state of play is bad for the planet & hence bad for the people.
Ecconomics: Where anybody can start up a business, pretty much doing as they please, regardless of the resourses/environmental cost. An ecconomy/government who encourages companies to do well. But if you do too well (which is the nature of free enterprise), the monopolies comission will break up your company for fear that you'll rig prices. -which is odd, as going to the cash & carry & buying in bulk is CHEAPER. (So if only Tesco's existed & had the monopoly, they should be able to drive prices down)
We are told one thing & another thing happens instead
Enough for now, what do you think?
I reckon its an excellent idea.
I might suggest we keep our policies short, simple and practical!
Now, just what should our policies be...
Free energy. which leads to free food, transport, med care, ect.
I reckon that is doable, considering there are companies now offering it already!
http://www.ashadegreener.co.uk
I was pondering the idea that if we built our own power stations, we could provide a ration of free power to domestic customers, but still charge business customers, and those domestic users who go above their limit of free juice. (So that the income from the business customers covers the operating costs to provide electric for everyone, so one doesn't make a finanical loss.(There is no need to make a profit on it..))
Geothermal appears very promising as far as low cost power generation goes:
http://www.evworld.com/article.cfm?storyid=247
> Brewington and his backers believe the eventual production model of their 10MW Power Tube > can be installed for under $450,000 per megawatt,
http://www.powertubeinc.com
So we would be looking at nationalising UK powerstations as a policy ?
(I reckon having at least one working example of free power to the people would go a long way to convince people its economically doable.)
(Its an idea I've pencilled into my todo list at some point, seeing how they wanted to build a new bio-fuel power station down the end of my road here, but it didn't get planning permission, perhaps a geothermal one would be more acceptable to people.)
Med care is already supposed to be free
One would just need to remove perscriiption costs.. (I wonder how much that is per year?)
Food and transport are also excellent choices, though I reckon harder to do, but still possible even in todays economic climate. (I think emphasis on how these services will cost less to run overall for the country under our leadership and how they will enable the standard of living for the majority to be improved, as well as providing increased resource security and less need for imports.)
i like the cut of your gib, mi lad.
yeah, i quite like the free solar panels, but wonder if the resources could be put to better use.
i'm rather interested in this idea for free energy
http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2010/05/20/out-of-sight-out-of-trouble/
bear with me here...
I was thinking how to turn briton into a company (then i laughed as i remembered that the governments are regestered as companies), a high Tec, high energy company. Lets face it, we're never gonna want to do with out, computers,tv, ps3,cars, etc , etc.
We invest in the offshore wind farms along with micro generation, whilst investing in cabling & the such. -Expand into europe.
Yes nationalising the energy/lotto/water/steel companies.
Free energy would give you free food (for the most part), & lets face it, fosil fuels are finite so we'd invest in electric/magnitic cars/transport.
Ecconomically/socially/environmentally & transport wise, we could be the envy of europe.
A couple of aspects about wind farms is the NIMBY issue (I might hope that solar panels are less visual.. and that geothermal would be the most friendly of all, especially if you can earth shelter the buildings.) and also the problem of large scale storage of electric, in that when its not blowing, one will need to rely on other forms of generation, or stored electric.
As such, my understanding is that currently wind/solar may only make up a small (I'm not sure of the figures, but I seem to recal something like 10% to 20%.) amount of our generating capacity due to the lack of storage.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_battery I hear look promising for large scale storage.
I'm not sure we have any steel companies left do we ?
I reckon as a party, the thing that would make the difference is with practical examples to show people we are not just hot air. (Which I think is what gets the conservatives in as many of them run businesses, whilst Labour folk are tradionally less up on how to handle money and more prone to spending beyond their means..)
A related programme recently on TV which covers this kind of issue is:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11619751
> The Secret Life of the National Grid
I wonder how they dealt back then with people objecting, or did everyone just pull together..
Also, the Queen/Royal Family maybe useful to get on board considering:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1323228/Queens-38m-year-offshore...